“How Do I Grow My List?” An Interview with PJ Van Hulle

Screen Shot 2013 04 10 at 8.04.37 PM How Do I Grow My List? An Interview with PJ Van HulleCould you add 10,000 to your email list in the next 90 days?

PJ Van Hulle thinks that, while it might be lofty – with the right pieces in place, it’s not an unachievable goal.

I really love PJ. She’s one of the most genuine people but also so much smarter about online marketing than I will ever be.

She launching her List-a-Palooza telesummit at the end of May so I thought I’d interview her about the nuts and bolts of this strange beast of building one’s list. The telesummit is totally free to attend but I thought you might like to get the boiled down version of her point of view to see if it’s a fit for you worth exploring further.

Building your email list is a central piece of becoming a hub in the online world and moving from cold marketing (where you’re chasing strangers) to hot marketing (where your ideal clients are coming to you).

Why grow your list? Why is this something worth focusing on as an entrepreneur? 

As an entrepreneur, your e-mail list is one of the greatest financial assets in your business.  I’ve even heard experts say “your list IS your business.”  

With a profitable e-mail list you can:

  • Fill your seminars and programs
  • Attract more clients and sales
  • Turn current clients into repeat clients
  • Promote other peoples’ programs that you believe in and earn $1,000?s in affiliate commissions

Having a big, profitable e-mail list provides entrepreneurs with an uncommon level of financial security because you can even out your cashflow and generate more income any time you need to, simply by sending out messages to your list.

Without a profitable e-mail list, being an entrepreneur can be so much of an uphill struggle that many lose steam and eventually throw in the towel.

So, YES!  This is something worth focusing on as an entrepreneur.  If you’re not focusing on growing your list, you’re setting yourself up to continue to work much harder than you need to.

Also, most of my clients care about making a bigger difference in the world, and having an e-mail list that you regularly provide value for allows you to expand your energy and your message to many more people and make a bigger impact, even if not all of them become your clients.

What’s the story of how you came up with this program? What was the need that you saw in our community around this? You’ve done if for a few years now it seems.

This is my second year hosting List-a-Palooza, even though I was planning on doing it only once.

In my Big List Big Profits program, I walk people step-by-step through how to automate their marketing and sales online, but there just wasn’t enough time to cover the plethora of traffic generation tactics out there.

My intention was to turn the recordings from List-a-Palooza into a product that I could bundle with the Big List Big Profits program so that once people had their marketing and sales infrastructure set up, they would have lots of great training on how to drive traffic into their automated system.

Well, List-a-Palooza ended up being even more of a hit than I imagined it would be, and I received a flood of requests to do it again.

I had a ton of fun doing List-a-Palooza last year, and this is a topic that I’m super passionate about, so I decided to go ahead and do it again.

I’ve seen how people get dramatically better results with specific training, accountability and the support of a community of like-minded people, so I’ve done my best to provide those key elements through List-a-Palooza.

Can you share the story of how you went about growing your own list? When did you start your business and what were the phases you went through in building your own list, where are you now?

When I first launched my business, I didn’t have an e-mail list or an Opt-In page or anything.  I manually sent e-mails to people I knew, asking them to spread the word about a live event I was doing.

I knew that growing an e-mail list was important so I invested in a program called Constant Contact, which had done-for-you newsletter templates.  

I hired someone to help me get my newsletter out, and I just couldn’t crank out content fast enough so it was hard to get the newsletter going out consistently, and eventually, I gave up on it.

My big breakthrough came when I created the Client Attraction Blueprint system that I now teach in my Big List Big Profits program.  I created it for my Platinum Mastermind clients to help them organize all of their marketing and sales ideas together in one simple document.

I immediately applied this system to my own business, and the results were life-changing!  I got more done in the next 4 months than I had in the past 4-5 years because that blueprint gave me a level of focus and clarity that I had never experienced before.

When an architect looks at a blueprint, they know what needs to be built in what order and how everything fits together.

Suddenly, I could see my business that way.  Once I saw how my e-mail newsletter fit in to my overall blueprint, I became more inspired and motivated than ever to build my e-mail list and consistently provide value.

I finally got really serious about list-building about 6 years after starting my business.  

I committed to consistently publishing my bi-weekly e-mail newsletter, Prosperity Express.  

Now that I knew that the people joining my list would be consistently receiving value from me, I felt confident in growing my list.

I grew my list from 300 people to over 15,000 using a lot of the tactics we cover in the List-a-Palooza training calls.

What are the biggest blunders people make in growing their list? What are the things you see that make you cringe in people’s list building efforts?

I think the #1 biggest mistake is waiting to get started.

Growing your list is like taking advantage of compound interest.  The earlier you start, the more consistently you make “deposits,” and the longer you nurture your list, the more profitable it will be.

NOT building your list is costing you every day, whether you realize it or not.

It took me 6 years to get serious about building my list… don’t make the same mistake I did.

The #2 biggest mistake is driving traffic only to a “Brochure” type website with a bunch of tabs (Home, About, Blog, Contact, etc.) instead of to an Opt-In Page.

The #3 biggest mistake is only sending out sales and promotions and never providing value for the people on their list.

Here are the things that most make me cringe:

  • Seeing entrepreneurs invest $1,000’s on a “Brochure” type website that doesn’t even have an obvious Opt-In Box on it “above the fold” (where people can see it without having to scroll down).
  • Receiving e-mails that address me in the second person plural.  For example:  “Hi everyone!  Hi All!  Hi Friends!”  This is obviously a mass e-mailing, and I’m unlikely to read the message. Instead, I recommend addressing people in the second person singular.  If you’re e-mail program can’t mail merge my first name in to the e-mail so that it says “Hi PJ!” at least write something that feels a bit more personal like “Hi there!” or just “Hello!”
  • E-mails that are formatted as huge blocks of text all the way across the screen because they are very difficult to read.  I recommend formatting your e-mails in short columns for easy reading.

Your 90 day challenge has the claim of ‘add ten thousand people to your list in 90 days’. That seems very bold! I’m curious, what would already need to be in place for someone for that to be a doable goal?

I offer that specific challenge to inspire the participants and get them into action right away.

I was actually shocked how many people joined List-a-Palooza last year that were just getting started with their e-mail lists.

In that case, it’s highly unlikely that they’ll add 10,000 people in 90 days.  

However, many of the participants last year were still absolutely thrilled to have doubled, tripled or quadrupled their smaller lists.

In order to hit the goal of 10,000 new subscribers in 90 days, I believe that you need one or more of the following:

#1 – Time AND “Know How”: One of our List-a-Palooza speakers last year shared her exact strategy for adding 10,000 people to her list in only 45 days using Pinterest.  She knew what she was doing and invested a significant amount of time and energy in pulling this off. Another speaker last year talked about how to drive tons of traffic to your website for free with Deal Sites (like Groupon or Living Social).

#2 - Money to Invest in Paid Advertising: Over 1100 people joined List-a-Palooza last year from Facebook ads, and I’m challenging myself to add 15,000 people from paid advertising this year.

The key to paid advertising is TRACKING the results from each ad.  It’s amazing how wildly the results can vary from ad to ad.  I create a separate tracking link for each ad I run so that I can quickly increase the ad budget if it’s performing well or stop the ad if it’s not performing well.

It also helps to have something under $100 to sell right after people opt in so that you can calculate the ROI on your ads right away.

When people opt in for List-a-Palooza, I offer them the chance to get the List-Building Success Kit with all the recordings for an astounding 90% off.

Not only does this provide exceptional value for the investment and build tremendous good will, it also lets me know right away which ads are working and which aren’t.

When you do it this way, paid advertising doesn’t have to cost a lot.  You can start out with $5-$10 and go from there.

#3 - Powerful Relationships & Connections

If you are launching a new teleseminar or webinar or hosting a tele-summit (a series of interviews) and you have strong relationships with strategic alliances and or affiliates, you can add 10,000 people to your list in under 90 days by having them promote your launch.

For example, I just spoke on Vrinda Normand’s tele-summit, and over 11,000 people opted in for that event.

The point is…

Whether someone is just starting out or whether they already have a large list, I believe that “What you focus on expands,” and by focusing on building their lists for 90 days, especially with all of the resources they receive through List-a-Palooza, they’ll move forward MUCH FASTER!

And, then how do you do it? How does one go from adding a few people every week to thousands? What do you see as the most effective strategies for building ones list? 

Here are the 3 phases of list-building as I see them…

PHASE 1:  Getting Started

When you’re just starting out, I recommend reaching out to your sphere of influence and inviting them to receive your special newsletter or tips (whatever valuable free goody you offer on an ongoing basis). 

Here are some places to start:

  • Stacks of business cards you’ve collected
  • Contacts in Gmail (or whatever e-mail provider you have)
  • People in your cell phone
  • Facebook friends
  • LinkedIn connections

Send them an e-mail message to reconnect, inviting them to opt in to your list.  I share some specific templates for this in my free report, “How to Jumpstart Your E-mail List.”

By the way, you need PERMISSION to add someone to your e-mail list.  Otherwise, it’s considered spam.  When someone gives you their business card, it does NOT mean they’ve opted in to your list (unless they specifically say, “Here’s my card… please add me to your list.”)

PHASE 2:  Launching

Just like a rocket uses most of its fuel to get off the ground, adding the first 1,000 people to your list is the hardest, in my opinion.

You can accelerate your results in this stage by asking for referrals, regularly posting on social media, public speaking, attending networking events, and investing in paid advertising, like Facebook ads. 

If you’re really ambitious, you can add hundreds or thousands of people to your list in a relatively short period of time by hosting a tele-summit where the speakers that you’re interviewing help promote the event. 

PHASE 3:  Leverage

As your list gets bigger and bigger, it’s easier to find strategic alliances and affiliates with bigger lists to promote you and vice versa.

Once you have an online sales funnel that converts well, it’s less scary to invest more money in paid advertising as well.

Who are the top three email lists (excluding our own) that you think really embody the principles you teach?

Tracey Lawton

I stumbled upon her website online and opted in to her list because she was offering a free goody that I thought was valuable.  Her e-mail newsletter captured my attention with good subject lines and useful articles, and I eventually purchased one of her programs.

She did a great job of building relationship with me through her e-mail newsletter, even though we had no previous connection. 

Since then, we’ve promoted each other to our respective lists with great results.

I was so impressed that I invited her to speak on List-a-Palooza.  

Kendall SummerHawk

http://www.kendallsummerhawk.com

She also does a great job of consistently providing a lot of value through her e-mail newsletter.

She spoke on List-a-Palooza last year and the training she offered was fabulous.

RC Peck

https://www.fearlesswealth.com/

It took me 10 years to find a financial planner that I could whole-heartedly recommend to my clients, and RC is it.  He has also built a large e-mail list and a very loyal following (he’s sharing about how he did it on List-a-Palooza this year).

I really appreciate his regular Market Situation Reports and that he provides them in both video and transcription form.

What would you consider to be a good open rate and click thru rate these days for emails?

I think a decent open rate to shoot for is 20%.  As for click thru rate, it really depends on the offer so I don’t have a specific rule for that.

Do you think that building an email list is where it’s at these days? It seems like there are so many email lists to be on and I know it’s overwhelming for me (and I’m in the business!). Where do you see email fitting into the larger picture of ‘staying in touch’ with clients? There are so many options for social media now too.

Yes, I do.  Many people change their physical address more often than their e-mail address these days.  They’re still opening and responding to e-mail.

And just because they’re on your e-mail list doesn’t mean that e-mail is the only way you can communicate with them.  I also use text messaging (for people who request it), voice broadcasts, and regular snail mail. 

Also, you can use your e-mail list to create a “Custom Audience” for Facebook ads so that only people on your e-mail list see that particular ad.

During List-a-Palooza, we do weekly “Power Hours” to help build each other’s Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Pinterest followings, too.

Ultimately, it’s not about e-mail specifically.  It’s about taking amazing care of and providing exceptional value for your “tribe” in a way that’s also scalable for you so that you can make a big difference without burning out in the process.

You’ve also built a pretty incredible following on Facebook, could you share anything about how you’ve gone about that?

It started with a shift in consciousness…  

Most people use their Fan Pages to talk about themselves and promote their stuff.  Until the middle of last year, my Facebook page was all about me… what I was up to, what events I had going on, and so on.

Then one of my mentors advised me to stop making my page about me, and start making it about THEM (the people who like my page).

People go on Facebook to feel connected and be entertained (not to find out about your latest teleclass).

Give them what they want with funny, cute, beautiful and interesting posts, and they’ll give you what you want (likes, comments, shares, opt-ins, and sales).

So a lot of my posts have nothing to do with my business.  I post pictures that make me laugh (like kittens in tea cups).  

I know that some social media experts out there teach exactly the opposite and would sneer at me for suggesting such a thing…

But this has made my Fan Page go viral, and these cute and funny posts keep my engagement high so that when I do post about my business, people actually see those posts.

What most people don’t know is that Facebook tracks the “Virality” of every single post and expresses it as a percentage of how many people liked, commented, or shared out of the total number of people that saw that post.

If even one post has under 2% virality, Facebook stops showing your posts to as many people, even though they’ve liked your page!

That’s why most Fan Pages in our industry have NOTHING going on… it’s like a graveyard, which is heartbreaking because the owners of these pages have put all this time, effort, and possibly even money into growing these pages, and it’s they’re not going anywhere.

If this has happened to your page, you can build the engagement and “Virality” back up by posting some viral images (feel free to recycle some of the images on my Fan Page) and investing a few dollars in promoting those posts (click “Promote Now” in the bottom right of the post). 

To check out PJ’s upcoming List-a-Palooza click here.

five steps to get more (and better) clients – (14 minute video)

A few weeks ago, I realized how I take almost every client I work with through the same series of five steps. If you want more (and better) clients, you will have to, at some point, engage all five of these things. The bad news is that they’re not easy. The good news is that they’re really simple.

And they all start with knowing who is a perfect fit for you – who your niche is. 

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what to call yourself

Screen Shot 2012 09 28 at 9.08.47 AM what to call yourselfMy dear colleague in the UK Corrina Gordon-Barnes (pictured right) just wrote a brilliant, brilliant blog post about the whole question of ‘what to call yourself’.

It’s a vital issue because what you choose to call yourself will have a direct impact on how memorable it is or isn’t and how easy it is to tell their friends about you. If word of mouth is the primary engine of marketing (and it is) then what you call yourself and how easy it is for others to remember and share matters profoundly.

If you do something with a funny name (e.g. permaculture, theta healing, appreciative inquiry, non violent communication, ‘the work’ etc.) you’ve no doubt noticed the glazed look people get on their faces when you try to tell them what you do. And you might also just not dig the generic title people in your industry use (even though it is clear). Perhaps you’ve been calling yourself a life coach, counsellor, dance teacher etc. but none of that really feels right or exciting.

So, what do you do?

You read this wonderful piece by my friend Corrina Gordon-Barnes.

To read her article click here.

Who Would Miss Your Project If It Died?

gravestone Who Would Miss Your Project If It Died?Mike Rowlands, a Vancouver based marketing and branding expert is asking a group of thirty positive change makers one of the hardest questions they’ve ever been asked. He’s a very fun fellow but the question is serious.

“If you closed up shop tomorrow, who would miss you? And why?”

We’re all sitting in a circle in Olatunji Hall at the annual Social Venture Institute. And a lot of us are stumped. I’ve been teaching marketing to hippies for over a decade and I’ve never considered this question.

But it’s an important question because the answer to it helps you really hone in on the question of what makes your distinct, relevant and different? Why do people work with you vs. someone else offering a similar product or service.

It occurred to me that a lot of conscious entrepreneurs who are more political, locally minded and critical of today’s capitalist suicide economy would miss me. They’d miss getting marketing ideas from someone who shared their perspectives and take on where the world is at. They’d miss getting tactics and tips that didn’t feel gross or slimy to them, that fit within their ‘political analysis.’

It also made me think that some of my colleagues (to whom I refer a lot of business) would miss me because they love the kinds of clients I send them.

The things your customers and clients would miss most are likely the things that make you the most unique, different and relevant to them. And, if no one would miss you, it’s a good sign that there’s nothing different about you . . . yet. If there’s nothing they miss then there’s a good chance you’ve not found your niche yet.

I think about Remedy Café in Edmonton. If it died I’d miss their chai. I’d miss seeing all of my friends who hang out there. It’s a community hub.

When Edmonton’s Organic Roots grocery store died, I missed the opportunity to buy from an independent organic grocery store in town and support local.

If the Artery in Edmonton died, I’d miss the chance to support one of Edmonton’s quirkiest, coolest independent art’s spaces. I’d miss sitting on the stairwell that faces the stage and the incredibly cozy atmosphere it has like magic is happening there every night that the community is lucky enough to participate in.

If your project or business died, who’d come to the funeral? And what would they say in their eulogies?

Think about that. Contact that.

And then bring even more of it to your business. Build your initiative so that they’ll miss it when you’re gone.

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Want Help? If you’d like some more direct guidance and hand holding on figuring out your niche then go and check out my Niching for Hippies coaching program http://marketingforhippies.com/niching-for-hippies/

five simple steps to getting new clients

five steps 300x229 five simple steps to getting new clientsI was recently listening to an interview with my colleague Bill Baren. He was speaking about how central niche is to getting new clients and he laid out his five step system to getting new clients. It struck me how similar it was to what I’ve done and to the pattern I’ve seen with so very many of my colleagues (e.g. Mark Silver, George Kao, George Huang etc.)

Five Steps to Getting More Clients

You must all of these five steps. Bill points out that each of these steps is like a stop at a train station. But if you try to skip the step it’s like you get stuck at that station until you do it.

1) Identify who you serve and what results you offer them.

We wrote about this the other day in my blog about Bill’s seven step niche checklist. And I’ve written about it in my blog about Island B.

Identifying who you want to reach is always the first step.

Examples:

Perhaps you’re a Life Purpose Coach focused on professional women who’ve lost a sense of purpose and have lost their energy because of that.

Perhaps you’re a meditation teacher who focuses on people who are depressed and helps them find joy and peace in their lives again.

Maybe you’re a yoga teacher who really focuses on the activist community and helps them deal with the overwhelm and burnout they feel.

Maybe you’re a money counselor who helps single dads get back on their feet again after a divorce.

Whatever it is, choose something.

2) Create your compelling packages.

This is a vital step that so many people miss.

Most people have misdirected drive in their marketing. The drive is to ‘get their name out there’.

Let that go as the drive. Make your focus, ‘How can I sustain myself while sustaining the community’.

Before you do any outreach you really want to think about your container. Before people find you – you want to ask yourself, ‘And what happens when they do?’

I’ve seen people do lots of intro events and talks only to have people clap politely (even standing ovations) and they end up with no clients. I’ve seen people get tonnes of media exposure and PR . . . and still be clientless.

Keep your eye on the ball. You want clients who are a fit.

And you don’t just want them for one session. Or two. You want long term clients.

But the critical mistake that most people make here is to book people in for one session. And then to (maybe) offer them another session and then (maybe) offer them another session etc.

This is so much work. And it’s not much money. And people often don’t even get the results they came for.

What if you created a package of multiple session (and perhaps through in some products, live workshops, teleseminars etc.) that could really help people make the journey?

What if you created a contract for a whole year of coaching?

What if you offered an ongoing monthly contract that they could stop at any time?

What if you offered them a 90 day program? A ten session package?

Get creative.

You might be thinking, ‘Nobody would go for that. Or they’d be offended.’

You’d be wrong.

In fact, many will say, ‘yes’ (if you share it in the right way) and most will be so thankful.

Examples:

  • Life Purpose Coach creates a year long coaching program, “Life Purpose Breakthrough Program: Seven Steps to Creating a Life of Power, Purpose and Passion.”
  • The meditation teacher for depressed people creates a 9 month program called, “Healing from the Darkness: A Nine Month Program to Transforming Depression into Peace, Strength and a Gift to the Community.”
  • The yoga teacher for activists creates an ongoing monthly program called, “Occupy the Present: A monthly program for becoming a more powerful, resilient and loving force for positive change.”
  • The money counselor for single dads creates a program called, “The New Life Program: A year long program for single dads to make their finances a source of pride and strength”
  • I created my Niching for Hippies program: A Six Week Virtual Course on How You Can Make More Money, Get More Clients and Work Less by Figuring Out Your Niche

Most of these are all off the top of my head, but they’ll give you an idea.

And then you can charge a good amount for these – enough to make sure you don’t resent the time. An amount that feels genuinely wonderful and has you excited about doing it and being fully present with the people who are hiring you. Stop offering a single session. When it feels like a fit offer a more complete package. You’ll be shocked how many people say yes and are excited.

But before offering it – just design it.

Talk to people in your niche. What would they want in this kind of a package? What would help them more than anything? Create a package you’re proud of. If you’re niching around your wounds – then create the package that you wish you’d had when you were going through the troubles.

You might consider having a bronze, silver and gold level of the packages so people can opt in at the level that feels right for them.

3) Creating opportunities to reach people in your tribe.

So, at this point you’ve got your niche (the beginnings of your platform) and you’ve got a package you want to offer them (the container).

That’s huge.

But no one in your niche knows about it yet. So, you’ve got to let them know somehow. You’ve got to make it really easy for them to find you.

And there are plenty of ways to do that: there’s writing articles, PR, online video, blogging, speaking, being interviewed, networking, hosting events etc. And they can all work.

But, let’s focus on speaking since it’s one of the easiest ways.

You create an introductory talk that gives people a genuine taste of what you have to offer. It gives them a strong sense of:

  • why the topic matters so much
  • your story of how you came to it
  • your point of view on it
  • some case studies and examples of people you’ve helped

This kind of presentation gives them a chance to raise their hand and say they’re interested.

Examples:

  • Life Purpose Coach creates a presentation called “Create a Career you Love” and delivers it to groups of professional women
  • The meditation teacher for depressed creates a presentation called, “Happy Again: The Seven Reasons We Get Depressed and How To Turn them Around.”
  • The yoga teacher for activists creates a presentation called, “The Sustainable Activist” and delivers it at activist events and conferences.
  • The money counselor for single dads creates a program called, “Cleaning House: The Three Biggest Blunders Single Dads Make That Keep Their Finances an Embarrassing Mess”
  • I created my Niching 101 for Hippies: A Ninety Minute Webinar on How You Can Make More Money, Get More Clients and Work Less by Figuring Out Your Niche
  • Bill Baren created his program called: How To Enroll New High-Paying Clients Without Doing Any “Selling” (So that your ideal clients say “YES” to gladly investing in your services, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE!)

4) Offer them an initial consultation.

During your presentation, offer them a free, thirty minute, initial consultation.

It’s a sort of discovery session where you’ll both find out if it’s a fit to work together and they’ll get some help.

  • Life Purpose Coach names her session “The 30 minute ‘Discover Your Life Purpose’ discovery session” and delivers it to groups of professional women
  • The meditation teacher for depressed people names the session, “The 30 minute ‘Identify the Roots of Your Sadness’ discovery session.”
  • The yoga teacher for activists names the session, “The 30 minute ‘Burnout Be Gone’ discovery session.”
  • The money counselor for single dads names the session, “The 30 minute “Clean Up Your Money Mess” discovery session”
  • I’ve offered a thirty minute session called, “The Hilltop Sessions: step back and get perspective on where you’re at with your marketing.”

A portion of the people who hear your talk and resonate with what you have to say, will take you up on this consultation.

And then, you will book times to speak with them and do it.

5) Powerful consultation where you enroll people into your program.

If you do this right, you’ll have them asking you at the end to tell you about what services you offer that could help them.

But beware of making the Three Classic Blunders most people do in these initial consultations. The goal of the session is for both of you to see if it might be a fit to work together further. Can you help them? Do they want to be helped by you?

And during the session here’s the basic flow you want to go through:

1) Where do you want to be? What is the result they’re craving?

2) Where are they now? What’s it like being them right now?

3) What do they see is in the gap between where they are and where they want to be?

4) If it genuinely feels like a fit, offer them the package.

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Do these five steps and you will get clients.

THREE KEY LESSONS HERE:

  • LESSON #1: NICHE - But . . . notice how these steps all hinge on step #1. The niche. If you don’t have that figured out, all the other steps fall flat. But, with a solid niche you might just be shocked at how well this all works.
  • LESSON #2: NO PACKAGES = YOU GO BROKE. If you remove step two, then it turns into you doing a bunch of presentations (for free) and then offering a follow up consultation (for free) and maybe getting people in for a few sessions. Having the packages crafted and designed in advance turns this whole model from one of struggle to one where you can create a lot of income fast.
  • LESSON #3: NO SESSION = NO PACKAGE. If you do a 45 minute talk and try to pitch them on your $1500/month package . . . good luck with that. It’s likely too much too soon without enough trust. The consultation is vital.

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Want Help? If you’d like some more direct guidance and hand holding on figuring out your niche then go and check out my Niching for Hippies coaching program http://marketingforhippies.com/niching-for-hippies/

 

fast marketing vs. slow marketing

tandh fast marketing vs. slow marketingThree months ago, I wrote a blog post called Slow Marketing.

It was all about how it’s okay (even important) to slow down our marketing.

This is a wonderful philosophy but what if you need money yesterday? What if you’re so broke and you can’t afford rent? All of a sudden, the slow approach while philosophically satisfying, doesn’t cut the mustard. So, what do you do when you resonate with a slow approach but you need fast results?

Screen Shot 2012 05 24 at 8.53.41 PM fast marketing vs. slow marketingThis was a question in my mind when I got on skype with my colleague George Huang (pictured left) of http://freedompreneur.com/. Years ago, George created an income of over $10,000/month in 73 days.

And he did it without most of the things we’re told we need to have.

Note: I’ll be releasing the eye opening transcript of this call for sale soon (at a very affordable price I think you’ll like a lot).

To be clear, he did it without a big list, a Web site or a blog, a bunch of social proof and client success stories, a business card, referral sources and huge hubs, social media, an ethical bribe or free gift, a huge sales funnel with ten levels to it, a million ways to market himself or a business plan.

What did he do?

He did what all of us need to do when we need results fast. He focused and he hustled.

When you need income and clients fast you need to laser in on one project + one marketing method and work it.

George printed out a little poster for a workshop he was planning. And, after wasting a month on trying to get clients with free consultations (which he didn’t know how to do properly) and then two more weeks on a website and blog he went to every morning business networking meeting he could. Each participant had one minute to introduce themselves and he stood up with his little poster and plugged the workshop. He got 19 people to go to his workshop (some for free others paying $25).

At the workshop, he offered a free session to anyone who resonated with his perspective. 13 people took him up on that and then four people became private clients at $1,500 a month. Within 73 days of conceiving of that event, he had seven private clients at $1,500 a month. That adds up in U.S. dollars to $10,500 a month.

This entirely echoes my own experience of creating a lot of money fast. Pick one thing and work it.

When you need money and clients fast what you most need to do is pick a single project focused on a single niche and work it hard.

Once you’ve got the basic project, divide it into steps.

In his case there were three steps . . .

step #1: fill the workshop by using a marketing strategy that played to his strengths. Do you love speaking? Do that. Networking? Do that. Writing? Do that. Don’t worry about doing everything. Just get out there.

step #2: lead the workshop. Give people lots of value and a clear sense of what your point of view is. Let them meet you and get a sense of who you are and how you see things.

step #3: lead the free sessions and, where it felt like a fit, offer his monthly coaching package. Creating a compelling ‘free session’ can be powerful if you avoid the three big mistakes most people make (although George does exclusively paid intro sessions now and can teach you how). You can use that free consultation to figure out (on both sides) if it feels like a fit to explore working together in a more committed way.

Come up with some sort of ongoing package. Some people will do a series of six sessions. Others will set up an annual contract for 12 sessions, one per month. Others will set up an ongoing monthly session with no end date. But invite them to make a larger commitment to their journey and offer your help on it. It’s okay if they say ‘no’ to you. They might just say yes.

But  this whole model would have been a huge waste of time and money if George had left out step three.

Most service providers get stuck in a cycle of Step One and Step Two and then end up broke.

Figure out what you can offer than will bring more financial sustainability into your life and more value and progress into theirs.

Slow Marketing is the long game (and there are three big things you need to do to build that up). But Fast Marketing is the short game – and, being real, sometimes you need to learn how to play it. You need to learn how to drive the golf ball long, but also how to putt. It’s not the tortoise vs. the hare – it’s the tortoise AND the hare.

Let me restate something: he did this without a big list, a Web site or a blog, a bunch of social proof and client success stories, a business card, referral sources and huge hubs, social media, an ethical bribe or free gift, a huge sales funnel with ten levels to it, a million ways to market himself or a business plan.

Let me put this another way: those things are all useful in the long game but irrelevant for your short game.

Stated another way still: focusing on those things will, very likely, not bring you any money in the short term.

If you need money fast, stop trying to grow your business as a whole for a bit (put only 10% of your efforts there) and start focusing 90% of your efforts on the most lucrative and exciting possible project.

Slow marketing is designing and building your dream home. Fast marketing is building one of the rooms in it.

And then, when you’ve got some financial space from the amazing success of your project, slow down and go back to work on your foundation. You’ll thank yourself for it later.

nine thoughts on copywriting for hippies

quill 1 nine thoughts on copywriting for hippiesMy dear colleagues Jeffrey and Suzanne are hosting a call all about their take on ‘Spiritual Copywriting’. You can check it out here.

So it had me want to jot down some of my thoughts about this whole ‘writing sales letters’ thing.

I’ve already written a few blog posts on sales letters but I’ve never put down my own unique thoughts on it in one place.

Here’s the deal: You’ve got this cool thing. You know it’s cool. You know it helps people. You know it’s got a lot of value.

But you’re having a hard time getting that value across to people.

Of course, once they experience it, they often rave about it.

But . . . how do you even get them to have an experience? How do you get them to even be clear about what it is you do? If only you could find the right words (and express yourself without sounding salesy and gross).

My Wake Up Call

Years ago, I got an email from someone on my list asking to be unsubscribed. I asked them why and they shared honestly,

“Well, I just find your e-mails are kind of “in your face.”  All the BOLD print and BIG letters with FREE this and FREE that….  I get the feeling you were a car salesman in your previous life or something.  I just get the feeling you’re yelling at me… I worked for a communications company in my previous life and have done a lot of research into how to market myself as a nutritional consultant.  I have a very successful practice and what works for me is building relationships, public speaking, connecting with people on a personal level… and pull marketing as opposed to push marketing.  Have you ever read the book “How to Build an Ideal Private Practice”, by Lynn Grodski?  It’s a fabulous book…  a must read. Anyway – your approach likely works for many – but just not for me.”

Ouch.

The tragedy of it was that when people met me in person and come to my workshop they had the exact opposite experience. I was constantly told that I felt very safe, warm, welcoming etc. somehow my marketing materials weren’t reflecting the “vibe” of who I was.

So to hear this feedback was really painful.

I had, somehow, become (in her eyes) what I hated.

But I didn’t know any other way at the time.

This is the problem with the written word. when people meet you in person there’s 93% more of the communication spectrum in play. People can feel you. But words are only 7% of communication. So, you’re being judged 100% by 7% of who you are.

So then that 7% needs to really count and have some care and thought put into it.

The problem is you seem to get one of two extremes:

1) the business card ad: boring and generic and unclear.

2) the hyped ad: sounds like a used car salesman.

So, how do you write an ad that really grabs people without pushing them away? How do you make it hot without losing the warmth? How can you write something that sells without losing the sincerity? How do you trigger a positive response? How do you not trigger the “used car salesman response?

How can our ads be bold without triggering “bullshit?”

There’s a lot to say about writing good sales copy but here are some of my thoughts from the hippie angle.

The Basics of Copywriting:

First of all, here are some basics.

  • The Beginning and the Ending: By far, the most important parts of what you write will be the beginning and the ending of it. In a sales letter this will be the headline and the p.s. at the bottom. These should get the lion’s share of your efforts. First, you need to get their attention so they even bother to read your sales letter. Second you need to engage them more deeply (which stories are great for). Third, you need to help them really experience what it might be like to own the product. And lastly, you need to make it really easy for them to buy it from you.
  • Keep it simple: No more than five lines per paragraph. Use short words. Use short sentences. Write at a grade seven level. Don’t use industry jargon. Write like you would normally speak.

Hippie Copywriting Thought #1: It’s not about the sale.

I’m not just saying this to be contrarian.

The purpose of your sales letters isn’t to try to convince everyone that what you’re offering is the most amazing thing ever and that they should buy it now. That’s genuinely not the purpose.

The entire purpose of a sales letter is about helping them figure out – quickly – whether it’s a fit for them.

Period.

That’s it.

But, if your agenda is the sales letter is to ‘get the sale’ then it will come across as gross, contrived, condescending, pushy, slimy etc. The agenda to close people is what creates the resistance.

So, how do you help them figure out if it’s a fit for them?

First of all you need to do the work to figure out who’s a perfect fit for you (and let go of trying to please everyone).

You make sure that your platform is clear to them. You make sure that you speak directly to their problems and symptoms and also to the results they’re craving. You acknowledge their secret fears with empathy. You share your point of view about the best way to solve their particular problems. You need to share why you’re doing what you’re doing.

The real issue in poor sales copy is less often about writing skill and more often about the lack of clarity about our own platforms. If we’re not really clear about it, how can we hope to clearly express it to others?

You need to let them get to know you a bit better. And you need to help them understand, in clear and direct terms, what’s in it for them. You need to be clear about what you can promise and what you can’t.

A sales letter is not a huge net that you try to throw over everyone. It’s a filter you use to make sure that only the right people buy what you have to offer. After all, if the wrong people buy it then they’ll be pissed it didn’t work for them, bad mouth you and demand refunds.

Who needs that drama? No one.

Your sales letter isn’t a blackhole trying to suck everyone in – it’s filter trying to keep people who aren’t a fit out.

Hippie Copywriting Thought #2: Remove ‘hype’ triggers.

These hype triggers tend to appear in sales copy where the idea of ‘fit’ is unclear and they’re trying to get everyone to ‘buy now’.

First of all, watch out for the ALL CAPS. It really seems like you’re hyper and/or shouting. Try italics instead. Much softer.

Secondly, remove all exclamation marks. Seriously.

Thirdly, try removing any universals: always, every, never. These lose you credibility fast.

Fourth, remove any sense or tone of shaming someone into buying. Any notion that if they don’t buy from you then it’s prove that they don’t believe in themselves has got to go.

Fifthly, don’t lie about there being scarcity where there isn’t. Be real about why you’re deciding to limit supplies if you are. People will respect that. They will not respect being lied to. I’ve seen sales letters saying things like, ‘i don’t know how much longer I can keep this online because once my competitors find out about this they’ll want it taken down because it’s so effective and such a threat to them.’ . . . bull. shit.

Another fellow had a clock counting down on this sales page saying, ‘this offer will only be up until the clock hits zero’. Fine. But when you refreshed the page – the clock started over. Bull. Shit. Be humble about the scarcity. More of a, ‘Sorry we have to limit it but here’s why we are going that route’ rather than arrogantly lording it over them.

Sixth, limit use of superlatives. Saying you’re the ‘best’ is a sure way to arouse suspicion. Use testimonials. Show other evidence, awards, certifications, tell stories etc. Be wary of your stuff is the awesomest.

Seventh, don’t over promise. You might consider avoiding statements like “you will absolutely leave with _________” results and try “it’s our deepest hope that you leave with _________” or “we’ve set up this workshop to help you ______”. Promise what you can deliver on and not more.

Consider the occasional use of understatement – “hopefully”, “our intention is . . .” “let’s see if we can’t” “We think this might”  etc. in your copy and let your customers give the “raving reviews”. Let your customers and the case studies you use demonstrate the strength of your case. Let your point of view be so clear and compelling that it inspires their trust rather than just saying, ‘trust me’.

Eight, admit limitations and flaws. One of the most compelling things I ever saw in an ad was one for holistic nutrition where it said, ‘come and learn the possibilities and the limitations of natural nutrition’. And the limitations. Wow. They were admitting that this couldn’t help everyone all the time. My trust in them went through the roof in those three words: and the limitations.

If you are a boring lecturer, admit that (e.g. “I’m not a compelling speaker but I think you’ll find my ideas could double your profits this year.”). Nobody really believes there’s a perfect solution out there, so share your imperfections and learn to even endorse your own worst weaknesses.

Hippie Copywriting Thought #3: Tell stories.

The more you can weave story telling into your sales letters, the better.

When I run my workshops, I’ll have everyone introduce themselves at the beginning of the day. People smile and nod. Later I have them share stories about what they do and then I hear people saying, ‘Ohhhh. Now I get what you do.’ (note: they never mentioned not getting it before).

There are two basic kinds of stories you can share . . .

The story of what got you into this business: this story showcases your bigger why, builds your credibility and also shares your humanity.

The story of the impact of your work on your clients: these stories help to deepen their understanding of your point of view and approach as well as deepening your credibility. You can do these stories in the third person (case studies) or have them share them in their words (testimonials).

The beauty of testimonials is that clients can say things about you that you’d sound like a pompous ass saying about yourself.

Here are some great websites to check out about the power of storytelling in your marketing:

http://www.getstoried.com/

http://www.storiesthatsellguide.com/

http://www.byebyeboringbio.com/

And some blog posts I’ve done about stories in marketing: http://marketingforhippies.com/tag/stories/

Hippie Copywriting Thought #4: Sleep on it and trust your gut.

This one distinction will save you so much pain.

Recently, I wrote a blog post about the idea of slow marketing. And I think this applies hugely here.

Once you’ve written your sales letter, sleep on it. For a night. For a week if you can manage it. Then look at it with fresh eyes. Read it out loud to make sure it sounds like you. Like a normal person talking.

And the sit with it. And pay close attention to how you feel about it. Does anything feel ‘off’ or uncomfortable? If so, trust your gut. Meditate on it. Close your eyes. Notice where it doesn’t feel right and make the changes you need to make.

Ask a few trusted clients and colleagues to read key materials and do a “vibe check” on it.  Ask them, “Is this clear? Does this feel right?” You’ll get great feedback.

Give yourself time. Don’t rush this. If you know it needs to be written in a month, start on it now with a first draft. Give yourself the whole month to really steep in it. Sit with it. Let it ripen. Make it something you’re proud of. You’ll be surprised how much better you can make a salesletter with a little bit of space.

Hippie Copywriting Thought #5: Be yourself.

In both the wording and design, be yourself.

Here are a bunch of examples of sales letters I’ve seen that look cool and quirky – but are still really clear:

http://www.thenewaboutme.com/

http://rightbrainersinbusiness.com/

http://spiritualmarketingquest.com/

http://www.irresistiblewriting.com/websiteprogram

http://www.marketing101forholisticpractitioners.com/weekend.php

http://www.fluentself.com/monsters/

http://www.pinkelephantacademy.com/how-to-write-a-sales-page-the-sweetly-selling-workbook/

http://www.heartofbusiness.com/training-programs/momentum-course/

http://healthybabycode.com/signup

Let your own style, vibe, voice come through. If you’re nerdy let that come through. If you’re a jock, speak like a jock would. If you’re cranky, let yourself be cranky. Don’t you want clients who will love you for who you are? So then put yourself out there and let the sales letter be your protective filter that only brings you people who love you for who you are.

It can be hard to find your voice – but when you do, your sales letters will sing.

Selling Sweetly cover 231x300 nine thoughts on copywriting for hippiesHippie Copywriting Thought #6: Learn about the art of copywriting.

There’s a reason that professional copywriters are paid so much.

They’re good.

They can take what you do and translate that into something that your ideal customers will immediately ‘get’.

You likely can’t afford a top notch copywriter.

You can read over some of the case studies where I’ve worked with clients on their copy but here’s the best resource I know of that can help you learn how to write a wonderfully warm sales letter: Selling Sweetly: A Step by Step Guidebook to Writing a Sales Page.

I also commend checking out: http://irresistiblewriting.com/blog/

Hippie Copywriting Thought #7: Use warm words vs. pushy words.

Consider all the hyped up words that get used in sales copy you hate (e.g. ‘you must’, ‘you have to’, ‘you’d be a fool if you didn’t', ‘buy now’ etc). Here’s a starter list of warmer words you can use that might help create some more connection . . .

  • warm
  • conversation
  • intimate
  • connection
  • join us
  • small
  • invitation
  • welcome
  • no pressure
  • open
  • you are warmly invited to . . .
  • feel free to . . .
  • please consider . . .
  • it’s our hope that . . .
  • we hope that you . . .
  • probably
  • very likely
  • chances are that
  • i’m guessing that
  • my intention is

Hippie Copywriting Thought #8: It’s not about the words, it’s about the idea.

At the end of the day, the success of your sales letters won’t be determined by how hot or warm the words are but by how strong the core concept or offer is.

I’d rather have a poorly written letter expressing a strong concept than a brilliantly written letter trying to sell a weak concept.

The quality of the core offer you’re presenting is what will make the biggest difference – not how you articulate it.

If your offers aren’t getting the kinds of responses you want, you might consider that it’s just not that compelling an offer. And if that’s true . . . then go back to the beginning. Who is this for? What’s the problem it solves? Why should they pick me to help them vs. the plethora of other choices they have available to them? How do I help them get the results they’re craving most? What’s most important to them when they’re buying what I sell? And am I giving it to them? Can I prove it?

An idea like ‘free pizza delivery’ was a new solid idea. People wanted that.

If you’re struggling with this – I recommend reading Seth Godin’s brilliant book ‘Purple Cow.’ If you want to get inspired by a tonne of great business ideas to see what a ‘hot idea’ is like, go spend a few hours on www.springwise.com . If you want people to make remarks about what you do, make it ‘remarkable’. Sometimes we need to step back and innovate what we’re doing before we can market effectively.

Someone who says, ‘Oh. I teach yoga.’ has a dull offer.

You teach yoga? So what. So does everyone else.

But someone like Tiina Veer has a very compelling offer: Yoga for Round Bodies.

A good idea + good words = a very good chance of success.

Hippie Copywriting Thought #9: It’s not about the words, it’s about the messenger.

There’s an old Gaelic proverb that translates as, ‘if the messenger is worthy then the business is’.

Who people hear about things from has a far more profound impact than how well you word it.

Do both, of course.

But I can’t tell you how many people have come to my workshops and never even bothered to read the sales letters. Seriously. They came because someone they trusted told them to come. And that was enough for them. You might not need a sales letter ever. Some people succeed in spite of their terrible copywriting and lack of any website. But . . . why not have an incredible quality thing, strong relationships with hubs and well written copy?

As someone who’s a bit of a hub I can tell you that I am dramatically less likely to refer someone to a seminar or workshop or practitioner if their copy sucks.

Why?

Because now the burden is on me to explain it all for them. I’d rather just be able to say, ‘go check out their homepage. i think it’ll all make sense.’

When working on your sales letters make sure you also consider how you can get key hubs to be sending people to it. They will read your words much differently if a trusted source sent them your way than if they stumbled across you cold.


fifteen minutes of free video from my workshop in England

union jack2 fifteen minutes of free video from my workshop in EnglandHey there,

I haven’t posted a blog in a while because I’ve been traveling and I won’t be able to post much for the next month so I thought I’d give you something extra special.

It’s the entire video from my evening, introductory, ‘Marketing for Hippies’ workshop that I led in Chertsey, England which hosted incredibly graciously by Julie Bryant of Naked Dragon events. This is a workshop that cost $40 at the door. And I’d like you to have it for less than that – only £15.

You can watch a 15 minute summary of it when you click on the video below and then click the play button here on the page it takes you to . . .

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It was filmed beautifully by my new friend Anadi who runs SoundsOrange.com (which is worth checking out as an incredible online resource of all things personal growth).

If you like the preview you can watch the whole thing for £15 – when you click here.

I’d love to hear your thoughts and reflections. You can write them below.

 

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three foundations of a thriving business

three fingers 225x300 three foundations of a thriving businessAt some point last year, it became clear to me that there are three main things most entrepreneurs need to have handled in order to thrive. They overlap each other like circles in a Venn Diagram.

And I realize now that I’d never written about them explicitly. So, here we are.

First, there’s a seven minute video of me sharing the overview and then I’ve written a recap and bit more about my thoughts on this.

First of all, I want you to imagine that a successful business is like a stylish bucket full of water. And then we need to ask ourselves, ‘why don’t most people have a full bucket of water?’

 

 

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FOUNDATION #1: Your Platform

Your platform is what you’re known for.

It’s your brand, your identity, your reputation.

It’s also the basis of every, single marketing decision you’ll ever make. It’s the core of what makes a business either authentic or not, original or a copy cat.

I want to submit that there are six things you can be known for. And that most entrepreneurs only focus on ONE of those things (which is also the one that makes them seem the most generic, boring and ‘just like everyone else.’ You can be known for what you do, but also why you do it, your point of view on it, you can be known for you and your style, you can be known for the particular journey you take people on and you can be known for the unimagined possibility you introduce into people’s lives.

Most businesses try to get known for what they do or make (e.g. I’m a massage therapist, I make widgets, I sell groceries). The challenge is that, unless you’re the only one in your area or community doing that then how are they supposed to make a decision about who to work with? How should they know if you’re a perfect fit for them?

When people don’t have a platform their marketing will always come across as generic and lack lustre.

 

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There’s no point in pouring more and more water into a leaky bucket. The first step is to stop the leak.

It seems obvious. But most entrepreneurs don’t so much have a leaky bucket as a sieve or strainer. It holds onto almost nothing.

And some entrepreneurs have a bucket that’s so ugly (to them) that they don’t even bring it with them to the river side. They’re afraid people might see them with it and laugh at what an old bucket they have.

It’s important not just that our bucket ‘works’ but that we’re so proud of it and so charmed with it that we want to take it everywhere. That we’d be so happy for people to see us with it.

I’ve known so many people who’ve gotten covered in the media for their work and have gotten no clients from it. Or they’re super well known and loved, but don’t have a lot of clients. So much water that pours in and then almost immediately out.

Your container is the embodiment of your platform. It’s what people see or experience about your business that immediately gives them a sense of whether or not what you’re offering is a fit for them. The clearer your platform, the stronger your container.

If you were hosting a party, the platform would be the theme of the party and the container would be all the decorations, the cleaning, the hot cup of cider offered to guests as they arrived. Your website is a container. Your landing page. The story of your business. The free workshop you do is a container. The blog is a container. The community that you cultivate and create is a held in the container of your online forums, live events, your email list etc. Your container is comprised of all the structures you create that warmly hold your community.

Your container are all the things they can see, hear and explore that give them a sense of you.

Your container are all the processes and systems you create that make it safe for people to check you out at a safe distance and slowly get closer to you and opt in to being in touch with you.

Imagine Oprah Winfrey tells everyone to check you out. Vaguely mentions what you do but not enough to give anyone a real sense of it. So, what do they do? They check you out online. But, what if you don’t have a website? Or what if your website doesn’t really clarify what you’re about? So many people would see your site, maaaaybe bookmark it . . . and then be gone forever.

But what if they found your website and the homepage immediately helped them figure out if what you were doing was a fit or not, the ‘about me’ page gave them a really good sense of who you were and what you were about. And then there was a way they could sign up for things to be in touch with you (e.g. ‘join my email list and get this free gift’ or ‘follow me on twitter or facebook’ or ‘come to my monthly free workshop’ etc). Imagine the following you’d build over time.

For a container to be effective, it needs to be clear (which means the platform should be clear). It’s good if it’s safe and welcoming, but atthe bottom line it needs to be resonant.

If they’re on Island A and trying to get to Island B, your container is, basically, your boat. And of course, a boat might have many rooms in it or different types of tours you could take people on (the different offers you could make).

Your container is the home made ready for the party. When they show up that they want to stay. They get to the door and they’re nervous, but then they smell the food, they see how beautifully decorated it is, they see the wonderful people inside, they’re greeted with a cup of hot apple cider and they hear the beautiful music etc.

One of my colleagues Bill Baren recently shared a thought about this. He had a client who was promoting a teleseminar and there was a webpage people would go to to register for the teleseminar. They were obsessed with reaching more people. But Bill asked them to pause and check out what percentage of people who were actually going to the landing page were signing up. It turned out that 10% of people who hit the page actually entered in their name and email to register for the free teleseminar. That means 90% hit the page and just left.

Doesn’t it make more sense,” he offered. “To see if we can tweak the page to boost the percent of people that say yes? Isn’t that a better use of energy? Instead of investing so much time and effort in getting more people, let’s see if we first can’t get more results from the people who are already coming. Right now we’ve got a tub with a huge leak. Instead of pouring in more and more water, let’s plug the leak first.”

When there’s no container it can be so confusing, ‘I’m doing everything right and I’m not getting any clients!’

Think of online dating. You create a profile. And then, you get a message from someone. But do you open the message right away? Often not. Most often, people will check out, ‘who is it that sent this message?’. So you go to their profile and, within seconds, you’ve determined whether or not it’s a fit. Your profile is a container. The message is just a path that gets them to it. Make sure the container is good.

Having a strong and clear container is the basis for creating ongoing , long term relationships with your clients.

And that’s vital.

Most entrepreneurs are obsessed with getting new clients. But it’s often much, much, easier to get an existing client to come back than to find someone entirely new. A massage therapist might make $100 on their first hour long massage (to keep number simple). But if that client comes back even three times a year for three years – that’s $900. The front end ($100) always pales in comparison to the back end ($900). And with some work (less than you’d fear, but more than you’d hope) you can increase the backend. What if they came in 4 times a year for three years? Suddenly, it’s $1200. With no new clients. And what if each of those clients referred even one new client? What if you offered workshops, products or other packages to them? Without a single new client you could be making much more money. And having your clients feel so much more supported.

Your container is your sales funnel. It’s the levels of offerings you have. It goes from the free samples to the bronze, silver and then gold levels.

I was in a Gaelic short film in the summer of 2011. You’d think that I would be spreading the word to everyone I know about it. But I haven’t. Why? There’s no website. No DVD’s are available. There’s no email list people can sign up for. Where would I send them?

One of my dearest colleagues has yet to create a website that’s really worthy of his work yet. I adore him. I want to spread the word for him. But he has no email sign up form yet. His homepage feels a bit vague. And I’m only going to have one chance to launch him to my list. I want that to count. I want it to matter. If I send people now, they’ll go and leave and he’ll get very little from it. I don’t want to waste my time.

A good container creates instant and ever deepening clarity.

A bad container creates confusion.

And I hate confusion. If you ask me to spread the word about you and you’ve got a bad container, it puts the burden on me to explain it all and make it clear to the people I’m spreading the word to. It makes it hard. Don’t make my life hard. If you have a bad container you’re not ready to approach hubs yet.

I want to be able to take one look at your boat and say ‘I get it’. Just from the kinds of boat, types of sails, the paint job, clothing of the staff on board . . . I want to know what the platform is. I want to know: aha! this is an adventure boat or a luxury boat or a fun times boat or a new agey boat.

If you offer some kind of therapy, I want to know, ‘is it in person or over the phone? Am I sitting or lying down? Am I hooked up to some fancy machine? Are you touching me? Am I naked? Are all these things happening at once? (awesome).’

Remember: the confused mind says ‘no’.

Before someone even thinks about stepping onto your boat they need to know what kind of trip they’re in for. And people hate it when their expectations are broken. They got on what seemed like the ‘classy’ boat but it turns out it was the ‘raunchy’ boat. Then people are pissed.

Amway has a bad reputation for this. You meet someone. They seem nice. They invite you for ‘coffee’. You end up getting a 45 minute presentation. It’s sneaky. The beauty of a good container is that it’s immensely upfront.

Real life example: you go out an tell someone about what i do (path). they say cool and check out my website (container) and like it because of all the unique content that expresses what i’m about (platform). I run a free teleseminar (container). It’s hosted by a colleague who tells all of their friends via their email list (path). While they’re on the teleseminar I tell them about a next thing i have (path). So a container can also be a path. Once they’re in relationship with us there’s just an ongoing deepening. I tend to think of the path as ‘how do they find out about things?’

In my Six Week course I’m running right now, one of my clients shared this, “don’t forget the path to your website, it doesn’t matter how awesome your website looks, if there is no path to it, it’s as though it doesn’t exist. the main paths that a paying client would take to your website are search engine searches. so you have to know what your clients would be searching for (keywords) and you have to tell them something on your website that would show them that you have the answers.”

The platform is the gift you want to give. The container is the making of it. The platform is what you want to offer to the world. But not offering it in a foisting it upon others and being pushy kind of way. I think of the container as more like a space you create that you carefully invite people to. And you design the space so clearly that it would inherently attract people who are a perfect fit for you.

There’s a chain of hotels I heard about the models it’s boutique hotels after magazines. So, one hotel is a Rolling Stone magazine style hotel. Another is a Chatelaine style hotel. That kind of thing. You can imagine what the Rolling Stone style hotel would look like and how, even in the colours, construction, design of the rooms, food served might be different. They are not generic hotels. They’re particular. The hotel (container) perfectly expresses the platform (the magazine).

When we first start out, our container is like an old one room house. There’s really not much to it. We offer one thing. Maybe that’s individual sessions, workshops, a particular product etc. And it’s a lot to even get that together. But, as we grow our business, we have a chance to add rooms to our house. With each room, extension, addition and beautification we can hold more people and make our home more resonant with the right folks. Of course, each addition to the house is a project. And these projects often take longer than we’d think and go over budget and we’re left thinking, ‘is this worth it?’. Because while we’re working on that we’re not making money. But eventually, it’s all done and we step back and get chills. Our house is a little more beautiful and exciting to us. And we want to show everyone. And, eventually, our home is perfect. Not too big and not too small. It’s got just the right number of rooms all painted just the right colours. There are minor fixes to be made but, basically, we’re there.

And, at that point, our attentions moves mostly to creating more paths to our place. So, much of this process is about our time and attention. At first, most of it goes to the platform. Then it moves into creating the container. And then the paths.

Here’s an odd way of looking at your container. Have you ever dated someone and realized it wasn’t going anywhere? It had gone as far as it was going to go? So what did you do? Likely you left them. There was no more potential. Nothing else to get or give. Clients are like that too. If the show up and check out your website and there’s lots of free stuff but there’s no products to buy, no workshops to attend, no next steps . . . they will just drift away and find someone else who can better help them on their journey. A container is not simply a static thing. It’s a series of invitations into something more deep and wonderful.

The container has a lot to do with being ready. Preparing our home to receive guests. Making sure we’re ready for when they show up. Being craftsmen of our arts. Attention to details. Small things matter. Wrapping our gifts as beautifully as we can. This gives us a sense of pride. We’re excited (not embarrassed) to send people to our website. We can’t wait to show off our cafe. We know that the details are handled so we don’t fuss about them. We can relax. The container, we find, not only holds the potential client – it holds us too.

 

water pump 300x212 three foundations of a thriving businessFoundation #3: The Path

If the platform is the bucket design, and the container is the bucket, then the path is a faucet that water comes out of (and I suppose your clients and income would be the water). Not much point in having a beautiful bucket if it’s going to sit there empty all the time.

Another analogy: So many people set up their businesses in the middle of a forest with no paths leading to it. They are hoping that somehow, lost in the woods, the right people will stumble upon them and want to buy what they’re offering.

The more paths you have leading to your doorstep the more easily you can be found. This is the heart of marketing, making it easy for the right people who are a perfect fit to find you and say ‘yes’ to working with you.

But there are so very many ways to market what we do.

And that can feel overwhelming. Where do we start? Especially when everyone has an opinion about what the ‘best’ form of marketing is. There’s public speaking, writing, hosting events, social media, PR, advertising, online events, free samples of our work . . . So much.

Weight watchers has an interesting and very down to earth take on this. When doing their workshops, they’ll ask their audiences, ‘what do you think is the best form of exercise for weight loss?’ and people will throw out their opinions: running, walking, swimming etc. And then they’ll say, ‘Here’s the truth. There is one form of exercise that is the best. It’s proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be the most effective form of exercise for weight loss. Do you want to know what it is? The best exercise is . . . the one you’ll do.’

And there it is.

The one you’ll do.

I think the analogy of paths is good for another reason: they’re already looking for us. People are already struggling with certain problems and symptoms and looking for relief. Let’s make it as easy as possible for them to find us by making as many clear paths through the woods as we can. The easier you are the find, the more easily you will be found.

Many people think that marketing is about searching people in the forest. But we need to remember, the people we think we need to search for are already searching for us. And they’re highly motivated. So, let’s put our energy not into chasing anyone but into getting very clear about who the perfect someone’s are that we want to work with, creating wonderful and inspiring containers to receive them into and then making it almost impossible for them not to find out about us and check us out in low risk ways.

We can’t always afford to lay down a highway to our doorstep. Start with trails of breadcrumbs. Start where you can with the types of paths that resonate most with you.

When there are no paths it’s like you’ve got this amazing thing that nobody knows about.

My suggestion to you: pick three paths. Pick three marketing tactics and strategies that feel really good for you and invest deeply into them. Do you like writing? Speaking? Hosting? Think about the ways of expressing yourself that you are naturally drawn to and delve deep into those.

When a business has all three of these, a clear platform, a strong container and easy paths they tend to have all the business they can handle.

What do you think?

Island A: The Painful Symptom

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Words of introduction in which I explain of the incredible length of this post which should probably be an ebook

 

“Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle”

- Plato

I want to talk about empathy in marketing.

It might just be the most important part of it.

This is one of the longest posts I’ve ever put together. It likely took me about ten hours.

I spent so much time on this because I really want you to ‘get it’. I don’t just want to show you something new to look at – I want you to have new eyes.

Give me thirty minutes of your time to read this. It could change your business.

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So many people in life struggle.

Alone.

They never feel like anyone ‘gets’ them. And, truthfully, most people don’t. They saunter in with their big words and importance advice. But, of course, the solutions rarely work. Because it was a cookie cutter, generic piece of advice. Like a suit that was too big it just didn’t ‘fit’.

When people see that we don’t ‘get’ them, they will never trust our solutions.

Translated: if your potential clients don’t feel like you ‘get’ them – they will never hire you; they’ll never buy from you. And, until you understand the real nature of the struggles your clients go through you will never be able to write good sales copy. But, vastly more importantly, you’ll never be able to craft a product or service that is genuinely perfect for them. Your products and services will always be generic.

But let me start by telling you a few stories.

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I’m in a car driving from Santa Cruz, California with a friend of a friend to a music festival in Santa Rosa.

And she is venting.

Relationship stuff.

The drive is two hours.

180594 10150416707365195 516700194 17821010 1994057 n Island A: The Painful SymptomAnd, during the entire drive, I barely say two words. I’m listening. Not that I don’t want to say things. Or feel like I have brilliant things to say. I do. I keep having pithy aphorisms, quotes and inspiring things to say that I’m convinced will help her. But something is telling me to keep my mouth shut and keep listening. So I do. Five minutes of silence pass as we drive. And then she takes a deep breath and says, ‘And another thing! . . .’

It goes like this for the whole drive. Me not saying much. Making sympathetic noises. Her sharing more and more deeply about what’s going on. At several points, I have the thought, ‘Wow. I’m glad I didn’t share that thing I was so excited to share thirty minutes ago.’ I keep seeing how off base my insights were. How useless they would have been. I thought the problem was X but it turns out to be Y. And then Z.

I keep listening.

378126 10151023003745195 516700194 22586557 1566986839 n Island A: The Painful SymptomFinally, a deep exhale from her. She seems done.

I say, ‘Wow. It seems like you’re really struggling with how to meet your needs for sexual expression . . . but also your needs for self respect.’

She grips the steering wheel a little tighter as her eyes widen. She takes a deep breath and looks over at me, ‘YES!’

What she was saying was, ‘YES! You got it! You articulated that better than I could have myself! Thank you.’

It feels wonderful to be ‘gotten’.

  

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CARPENTERS RULE:

Measure twice. Cut once.

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I’m in Toronto. It’s mid October. I’m leading a brand new workshop called ‘The Hot Box‘.

It’s an invite only workshop for more seasoned entrepreneurs focused at digging deep into their situations. Only eight people were there (but I realize I should limit it to six by the end of the day).

It’s a simple format.

We sit in a circle. People share where they’re struggling. We help them. Each person gets 45 minutes of the groups focus and time.

But the details are important. They have five minutes to share what’s up for them. Then the group has thirty minutes to make sure they really ‘get it’. We diagnose before we subscribe. For that thirty minutes no advice is allowed. Only clarifying question and reflections. Clarity first, resolution second.

And it’s amazing how different the advice is that I would give at the end of that thirty minutes than at the beginning.

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382128 10150967490020195 516700194 22382929 901739065 n Island A: The Painful SymptomI’m leading a workshop on Non Violent Communication for a housing coop in Edmonton.

We sit in a circle. I invite someone to share something they’re struggling with. A fellow named Jim volunteers. “I’m going home to visit soon. And my family and I always fight about politics. I don’t know how to deal with it.’

I feel everyone in the circle lean is as if to pounce on him with their advice, ideas and commiseration. They want to solve this shit.

I invite everyone to lean back. I invite them to question how clear they are about the real nature of the problem after so little information. Invite three people to reflect back what they heard. I ask Jim if they ‘got it’. He nods, but adds some more details. We end up going around the circle. I invite each person to share what they just heard him say and then I ask him, ‘did they get it?’

By the end of the circle Jim says, ‘I mean . . . do I even need to talk with my parents about this? I’m not even that political anymore.’

And it becomes clear: all of our advice from that first minute would have been useless.

Measure twice, cut once.

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I’m talking with a friend about foreign aid. He’s bemoaning an organization that went in to built wells so people could have clean water – but didn’t teach the village how maintain it. “Tens of thousands of wasted dollars . . .” He shakes his head. “These aid organizations . . . They just don’t get it.”

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Relevance

It’s easy to get lost in our brilliant point of view in marketing. To want to share our diagnosis of what’s really going on under the surface with people before they feel like we really get what it’s like to be them. To give all sorts of advice.

So, let me break it down.

People are overwhelmed with information these days. Thousands of marketing messages everyday. People unconsciously filter out 99% of the stimulus coming at them. What they do give their attention to are things they believe are relevant to them.

Relevance is the word.

And what is the only thing that is relevant to people? Their experience. Period. That’s it.

The more present, visceral and intense the experience – the more relevant it is.

When you’re in immense physical or emotional pain nothing else matters. If I were to have you hold your breath as long as you could – the only thing you’d want by the last few seconds is air.

If people can see how our product or service is relevant to them they will pay attention. If they can’t they won’t. It’s really as simple as that.

If you’ve followed my work at all you know all about my metaphor of the journey from Island A to Island B. You can watch a video about it here.

I wrote about it in a recent blog post about figuring out your platform.

Imagine a young man on an island (which we’ll call Island A). It’s not that great a place to be. But, it’s all he knows, so he goes about his days. Then he starts hearing that his is not the only island in the world. That there are other islands. At first he doesn’t believe it, but the more he visits the docks and meets these visitors the clearer it becomes. It’s true. And then, one day, he hears about a particular island (which we’ll call Island B). And his heart leaps. He wants to go there.

Of course, he needs to get a boat to go there.

But there are so many boats to hire! Which one to choose?

Your business is a boat. It helps people like this young man get from Island A where they’re struggling with some problem (i.e. set of symptoms they don’t like) to Island B where they have the result they want (i.e. something they’re craving).

People don’t get on your boat because they love it. They get on your boat to get off Island A.

And that’s the question: what is Island A?

Island A is the painful set of symptoms they experience in their lives. It’s the problem they face. It’s why they’re looking for a boat in the first place. It’s what makes your boat relevant to them. If they have no problem, they have, in their mind, no need for a solution.

I will often ask holistic or permaculture providers what problems they solve for their clients. They’ll laugh and say, ‘That’s the thing! This modality/approach can work on any problem. What can’t it do?

They’re so in love with their boat (what they do and how they do it) and so they talk about their boat all the time. But people only care about your boat if it can help them with their problem.

This seems like it would be a liberating approach or perspective. You’re not limiting your options. But it’s actually the most limiting thing you can do. Because now there’s no relevance for the boat. Why bother getting on a boat if you don’t want to leave the Island?

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Their Symptoms vs. Your Diagnosis

The famous golfer Jack Nicklaus was suffering from intense pain in his right knee and considering getting surgery.

But his friend begged of him to go see Pete Egoscue, a structural anatomist. Begrudgingly, as a favour to his friend, he went. When Jack walked into the office, Pete looked up and saw him limping.

“I see you’re having trouble with your hip.”

“Actually,” said Jack ‘why-did-i-agree-to-see-this-quack?’ Nicklaus. “I’m in crippling pain in my right knee.” and was about to leave.

“I can see you’re in pain in your knee. But that’s the source of your pain – it’s not the cause. The cause is that your right hip is rotated forward and that’s putting pressure on your knee. Get down on the ground and try this . . .”

After thirty minutes of stretching and exercises, Jack stood up. With no pain in his knee.

Pete looked him in the eye, “If you want this pain to stay away, you’ll do exactly what I say.”

Client for life.

The point I want you to get from this story is the sharp distinction between symptoms and signs.

The symptom is what the patient feels. The sign is what the doctor or trained practitioner notices. The person may come in with crippling knee pain (symptom). But the practitioner sees that this pain is caused by the hip rotating forward and putting pressure on the knee (sign). Here’s the point – in marketing you must speak to the symptoms not to the signs.

“What is my client’s absolute biggest problem? What is their perception of that problem? Their perception is more important than yours. Build your company around your customers biggest perceived problem. Give them your solution, or somebody else will.” Jay Abraham

Imagine a full page ad in a golf magazine: which headline do you thinking would be more effective?

A) “Are you suffering from excruciating knee pain every time you walk?”

B) “Is your left hip rotated forward due to a lack of core muscle strength?”

Duh.

This distinction is critical. In the beginning, you must speak to people’s experiences – not about your brilliant diagnosis of what caused their experience.

 

Empathy before education.

 

The truth: Most people don’t see themselves clearly. They could be the biggest asshole in the world – and never notice it. If you try to write an add saying, “Are you an asshole?” You probably won’t have much luck. Most people think of themselves as good people who are victimized by the world.

Is that sad? Maybe – but I’d suggest you get over that and just accept that that’s how it is.

People may not have any sense that they’re jerks – but I will guarantee you that they are noticing some of the consequences of their behaviour (even if they blame everyone else) – and that is what you need to speak to. Maybe they notice that they have no friends who they’ve known more than a year. Maybe they notice that they get lied to a lot. Maybe they notice that people break commitments with them a lot. They’re getting stood up for dates a lot. You’d get further in your marketing if you spoke to that.

Another example: most people think that they’re great communicators. They really do. So, if you come at someone from the angle of “we work with managers who don’t have the communication skills to motivate their employees” you won’t get very far. It may be true – but it’s a sign, not a symptom.

And all of your marketing must speak 100% to the symptoms that they are experiencing.

If you changed your approach to be, “We work with managers who aren’t getting the kind of buy in they’d like from their employees.” You’ve got to speak to what’s real for them. And what’s real for them is rarely that they are to blame. They probably are feeling hard done by. That doesn’t mean that you can’t help them identify where they are responsible for what’s happening to them – all it means is that you can’t start there.

 

A million more examples follow . . .

For the past fifteen years, I’ve worked with a non-profit in California. One of the ideas that’s evolved is to offer some mentorship and consulting to folks running non-profits working for progressive and radical change.

They walk into the office every day trying to keep their organization running and achieving its big vision. That’s what got them into it. Wanting to make a big difference.

And what we’ve seen is that, despite great missions and programs, many organizations are (secretly) suffering from breakdown due to internal conflicts, burnout and lack of alignment. Lots of money and energy are spent in building up an image to the outside world, while inside, things are falling apart for individuals and their relationships.

But if I were to try to get an Executive Director’s attention I wouldn’t say, ‘Is your organization out of alignment?’ Instead, I might speak to some of the following . . .

  • people aren’t really talking to each other in the organization
  • your organization is full of cliques
  • your organization is trying to work with a diverse coalition but you’re all of one gender, race or class – you’re a monoculture organization seeking to work on diverse things
  • lots of following but not initiative and leadership for people
  • you have to generate all the ideas and no one else is contributing
  • people are constantly criticizing ideas and putting them down – not very generative
  • your group is criticized about diversity/anti-oppression stuff
  • want to form alliances with other kinds of groups but not sure how
  • frustrated by divisiveness in activist community in your area
  • you’ve done an anti-oppression training but don’t know how to integrate it (and secretly have questions or doubts about the whole frame)
  • had a blow up around race, class, gender, power issues in your organization
  • people are calling you out on your attachment to power – you’ve become ‘the man’ to your staff
  • the roles and responsibilities are not the right fit. Some people are doing the wrong job and you’re not sure how to let them go or find them another position.
  • you keep trying to do the right thing to make your organization an embodiment of the culture you want to see in the world – only to have it blow up in your face
  • you’re feeling alone and isolated with no one to talk to

If I was leading a Non Violent Communication NVC) workshop, I wouldn’t try to educate people about all the intricacies, elements and premises of NVC in the ad. I’d want to speak to the symptom. Here’s an example of some potential content for a generic NVC workshop ad.

do you collapse and crumble inside when you’re verbally attacked?

(or do you just lose your shit and say things you later regret?)

There’s a third option that allows you to retain your spine without closing your heart down.

If you can honestly answer yes to the following 21 questions, you might find this workshop useful . . .

1.     have you ever had someone listen to you so deeply and non-defensively when you were in pain and angry with them that the pain went away and you were left feeling wonderful?

2.     does the idea of conflict secretly scare you?

3.     do you have a lot of trouble saying ‘no’ without feeling guilty?

4.     do you often feel like your needs are a burden on others?

5.     is it really important for you to be seen as ‘reasonable’ and ‘nice’?

6.     do you often not share the truth of what you’re feeling and needing with loved ones because you don’t want to hurt their feelings?

7.     do you often feel confused about exactly what it is you are feeling and needing?

8.     do you believe that your needs are something you should transcend or ignore (vs. just getting them met)?

9.     do you have strong belief in right and wrong? (and that people who do ‘bad’ should be punished while those who do ‘good’ should be rewarded?)

10.   do you find yourself staying put and staying quiet (smiling sweetly and unable to speak up) in intolerable situations?

11.   do you think that if you’re nice enough people will love and respect you?

12.   do you often feel deep resentment and bitterness towards people for not listening to you?

13.   do you sometimes feel scared that your feelings will overwhelm you or others?

14.   do you sometimes lie about how hurt or uncomfortable you feel because you don’t want to be ‘rude’

15.   do you feel guilty about asking directly for what you want and need?

16.   do you secretly fear that humanity is rotten at its core?

17.   when someone is in a great deal of emotional pain, do you find yourself initially trying to help them understand how they manifested this into their life (and to take responsibility for it)? or do you try to help them understand the spiritual lessons that they’re gaining from it . . . instead of just listening and giving them empathy?

18.   do you think it’s important to ‘call people on their shit?’

19.   do you think it’s important to be blunt and tell people what’s wrong with them when you can see it?

20.   do you intellectually believe in the idea of finding a win/win solution but emotionally shut down and react in ways you wish you didn’t when conflict arises?

21.   do you wish you could maintain your full presence when people are communicating with you in ways that you don’t like?

I hope this is making sense.

Speak to the symptoms, not about your diagnosis.

Nicole Moen speaks brilliantly to a common human experience, “Have you ever felt the urge to walk out your door and just go? You know, like, simply start walking . . . who knows where?”

Alex Baisley offers these words in his ‘Creating a Sustainable Lifestyle’ workshop:

Maybe you have a job or business you really don’t care for anymore. You feel there is more to life, that you’d like to work at something meaningful, maybe work for yourself, help others, have a better lifestyle, but you just can’t figure out what you should be doing.

You know you are creative, independent, and would prefer to make your living doing your ‘own thing’ if you could just figure out what…

Have you questioned leaving your job, going back to school, going to a life coach…? All good ideas by the way, but before going through another day frustrated and questioning… maybe come hear me out.

Maybe you are a parent, and you love the idea of having your work fit better with your family – allowing you to spend more time with your kids for instance, maybe even have them be involved in your work somehow a better life / work balance…

Do you ever get that ‘PANIC’ of feeling time is ticking along, and you still haven’t figured out what the heck you’re supposed to be doing with your life? This can be a very unpleasant experience – I know first hand what it felt like, and I’m sure glad I don’t feel it any more!

180637 10150416750495195 516700194 17821404 2582821 n Island A: The Painful SymptomKristi Beatty, a sexual enrichment counselor in Calgary articulates the experience of many women:

  • Not knowing their bodies and what truly pleases them.
  • Difficulties communicating with their partner about their needs, desires and wants.
  • Feeling obligated to have sex and not enjoying it.
  • Having difficulties having an orgasm or don’t orgasm at all with themselves and/or with a partner.
  • Feeling guilty when they self pleasure and/or don’t self pleasure at all.
  • Craving a deep intimate relationship with their partner but lacking a deep intimate relationship with themselves.
  • Avoiding having sex or certain sexual positions because they are self conscious about how their body looks naked.
  • Enjoying making love with their partner and giving them pleasure but have a hard time receiving pleasure.
  • Thinking they are “dirty” or “bad” because they actually do enjoy sex and want it more than their partners.
  • Feeling guilty or shameful about their fantasies and are afraid to express them.

The Therapy Vault was created out of empathy for the pain of therapists having to carry so many esecrets in their hearts and having no one they can talk to about it.

Carrie Klassen has written a wonderful ebook called ‘How to Write a Lovable Homepage’ and she articulates the experience

How to Write a Lovable Homepage is for entrepreneurs who:

  • are doing what they love but aren’t quite making a living yet (you’re not alone!)
  • don’t have enough clients, or enough “right” clients
  • want to surround themselves with only supportive, enthusiastic and loyal customers
  • feel stuck or stressed when it comes to figuring out what to write
  • aren’t always proud to share their websites

Mark Silver’s homepage does a wonderful job of articulating Island A:

Are you losing your heart trying to make your business work?

You can make a healthy profit and a real difference.

You want to make a difference in the world. And there’s no job description that lets you do exactly what you most want. Or the freedom that being self-employed gives you. Or the income potential.

So, accidentally or intentionally, you find yourself in business.

But it’s hard. Running a business turns out to involve more than you thought. Your vision can easily get lost in the overwhelming whirl of details and the pressure of bringing in cash. It’s no surprise you can end up dispirited and burnt-out, losing your confidence, passion and direction.

What’s more, the things you think you have to do to make the business work… you just won’t betray your heart and ethics like that. You won’t do it, no matter how “effective.”

Speak to the symptoms, not about your diagnosis.

Another story: A classic example of getting clear about the problem is FedEx.

For years, they thought they were targeting the CEO’s of the businesses. They thought the problem was helping to facilitate their communication. But then someone stopped and noticed what was going on. They realized that it wasn’t the CEO’s who were using FedEx. It was the harried secretary. They realized that these secretaries wanted to be heroes to their bosses. They changed their marketing to address that and their sales exploded.

The movie The Matrix did this. It powerfully captured a feeling that many people live with. This vague sense that things aren’t right; that there’s more to the world than what we see. It captured the frustration of feeling like we’re just food for the larger machine.

When running for the Presidency in the USA for the 2004 Elections, Senator John Edwards used  his “Two Americas” stump speech as the core of his messaging. The message was this: “There’s not just one America. There are two Americas. There’s an America where you get health care and there’s an America where you don’t. There’s an America where you have opportunity and there’s an America where you don’t.” People resonated with this powerfully. “Yes,” they thought. “It’s just like that.”

The title of John Gray’s best-selling book ‘Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus‘ struck a chord all over the world. People heard that and said, “Wow. That’s true. It’s just like that.” (NOTE: Friends of mine also staged a comedy production called ‘Men Are Stupid, Women Are Crazy.’ which also seemed to resonate strongly with both genders . . .)

Ari Galper realized that most sale people hated cold calling. Hated it. They had a fear of phone. But their jobs depended on it. Here’s what it says on his webpage:

 

Is Selling Painful For You?

It’s not your fault — and there is a better way

Old “tried and true” sales techniques that were once successful have completely lost their effectiveness over the years. That’s why I developed a sales approach that will quickly and automatically put you ahead of the game and instantly in a league above your competition.

 

Imagine that you hate your job and you see this ad. Do you think it might speak to you?

 

 “Is your boss a psychopath?”

Want to quit your job, but you’re afraid to?

Tired of your increasing workload without added pay?

80% of employees dislike their work.

DO YOU?

Call us today – we can help.

 

Speak to the symptoms, not about your diagnosis.

A core question to ask yourself is, “Under what circumstances do your prospects start to think about buying what you offer?” (thank to the book Monopolize Your Marketplace for this gem).

This isn’t what events make people think about buying from you. It’s what make them think about buying the product or service you sell in general.

Also – this is just what starts them thinking about it. We’re not asking for the things that make them say “YES! I’ll buy!” We’re looking for the core problems or triggers that start the process of thinking, researching, talking to friends etc. Only 5% of people are ready to buy right now. Most people are earlier on in the spectrum.

Example #1: What would happen to let you know you were needing a new car?

o    It’s breaking down constantly.
o    I’ve spent more money on repairs than the car is worth. I feel frustrated.
o    I hate the look of my car. I feel embarrased.
o    I just saw a new car I like.
o    I want to get a more fuel efficient car.
o    My family has grown and I need a larger vehicle.

Example #2: What would happen to let you know you were needing a new fence?

o    Your fence is sagging
o    My fence is eight year’s old and it’s starting to look run down
o    My family pet is escaping through gaps in the fence.
o    Animals are getting into your garden
o    The fence is sagging
o    The posts are rotting
o    A strong wind is causing one section to lean.
o    I’m building a new swimming pool and the fence is required by law.
o    You have children and you can’t leave them alone in the yard because they might run into the street.
o    I’m selling my house and I want to get top dollar.

Example #3: What might happen to let you know you were needing a life coach?

o    I am feeling lost in my life
o    I feel like I’m spinning my wheels.
o    I just got laid off and have no idea what to do. I feel overwhelmed.
o    I’ve just gone through a painful divorce and am wanting to start fresh but know I need support.
o    I keep meaning to handle important areas of my life but never seem to get around to it. I feel ashamed and embarrased.
o    I have a very hard time saying ‘no’ and drawing boundaries without feeling guilty
o    I am not getting my needs met in a relationship but have no idea how to ask for it. I feel helpless and confused.
o    I feel dissatisfied with my life but can’t put my finger on why that is.
o    I’ve read all the damn new age and personal development books and I still feel stuck in the same old patterns. I realize that it’s not about more information.
o    I am feeling stuck right now in some unhealthy patterns and I’m just needing someone to hold my hand and walk me through this.

Example #4: Under what circumstances might you start thinking about hiring a web designer?

o    I’m embarrassed about the appearance of my website.
o    I notice that I’m not passing out my website address because I feel so ashamed of its appearance.
o    My materials and website no longer represent me. They don’t capture my vibe and personality.
o    I just saw a website or flyer that made you say, “Wow! I wish mine looked that good.”

In my workshops, I often have clients practice introducing themselves by saying, “Do you know how (kinds of people) struggle with (kind of problem)?” (e.g. “Do you know how a lot of holistic practitioners struggle with getting enough clients?” 

That phrasing of “Do you know . . .?”is important. It’s important that they do know. It’s important that I’m speaking to the symptoms they’re experiencing not the underlying cause (we can and should speak to that later, but not until there’s relevance established).

Which of the following headlines do you think is most likely to get people’s attention?

1)    ‘Do you know how people struggle with always dating the same type of person?’

2)    ‘Do you know how some people’s heart chakra’s are closed down due to past unresolved karma?’

It’s obvious isn’t it?

Shouldn’t our businesses exist to help people with their real problems instead of just being a vanity piece where we show off our boat?

I want to suggest that the heart of your marketing can (and, if I might be so bold, perhaps ought to be) empathy.

Life can be hard sometimes.

We all struggle with things. And we all need help sometimes.

Our business exists to help people with their problems.

Simple enough idea – but the implications are profound and applications often totally overlooked.

Again, the word of the day is: relevance.

Do you remember Aesop’s fable about the lion with the thorn in his paw?

A mouse comes along and sees how much pain the thorn is causing the lion. Even though the lion is roaring loudly, the mouse bravely steps forward and takes it out and wins the lion’s lifelong loyalty. They become the best of friends.

Here’s the point: do you think the lion cared who took it out? Or what particular set of tools the mouse used? What technique? Where he learned it? No. Maybe afterwards. But the first and foremost thing on his mind was ‘get me out of pain.’

 

“It’s much harder to sell clients on a nice idea than it is to speak to the urgent problems they’re facing now.”
Phila Hoopes

 

But isn’t this being negative?

The key is to speak to people’s actual experience, not to just talk about our boat.

Sometimes what’s most real for people is Island A (what they don’t want) and sometimes what’s most real is Island B (what they do want).

But, often, people are more focused on what they don’t want than what they do want.

Is that a disempowering focus? Probably.

Is that a sad statement about where most folks are at? Perhaps.

But you can spend your time railing against reality or you can have empathy for it.

I know some marketers – especially in the new age scene – who never ever want to dwell on the negative or speak to people’s problems. They think that this makes those problems more real and that it’s manipulative.

While I really respect the integrity of this stance – I also think it’s entirely misguided. These people often are failing profoundly in their marketing. What’s often happening is that they’re in love with talking about how profoundly amazing their boat and point of view is.

When people are in pain – they need empathy – not advice.

As the old saying goes, “They don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.” Sometimes people are just craving for someone to acknowledge their struggles; to know they’re not alone or crazy for feeling how they feel.

For most people, their vision of what they want is far off in the distance but their problems are right in front of their face. And if you want to get their attention you must speak to what’s real to them right now.

You can be arrogant and holier or granolier than thou if you want. You can insist on speaking to what you think they should be focused on. You can ignore how much they’re hurting and simply refuse to acknowledge it and then blame them for not responding to it. You can choose to live in some mythical land where everyone is fully empowered and focused solely on what they want – or you can be a human being and admit that sometimes life is hard for folks. Sometimes people feel frustrated and confused and angry.

If you are willing to get off your high horse and really ‘be with the people’ – if you’re willing to take the time to hear and really understand the pain they experience and willing to articulate that in your marketing – an amazing thing happens: first of all, you get their attention. Second of all, people don’t feel manipulated – they feel seen. If you can artfully articulate their problems well – they feel heard, understood and acknowledged.

And that creates something else – profound trust and connection. If you can give them the empathy they’re seeking by speaking to their experience – they will turn to you like a plant does to sunlight. They will assume that, if you understand their problems that well – your solutions must be equally well thought out.

And, once a relationships developed – you may even be able to help them move their focus away from what they don’t want to what they do want and perhaps even lift their vision to a new horizon they never knew was possible – and wouldn’t that be a wonderful gift to give them?

Ask yourself: What’s going on with them that makes what you’re offering relevant?

 

If there’s no problem, there’s no relevance.

 

People don’t get on your boat because they love it. They get on your boat to get off Island A.

 

Three Compelling Reasons to Clarify Island A:

REASON #1 – THE OPENING

It will give you a compelling opening for your homepage, sales letter, presentation or cold call.

How do most sales conversations start? It’s all about the salesperson, isn’t it. “Hi my name is John and I’m calling from Acme Supplies.” Though it may not be immediately obvious how to do it you can start the conversation with their need, their problems – not your company’s pitch. By starting with their problem, with their lived experience, you instantly get their attention and interest.

If your marketing speaks to a significant problem of theirs, you’d be shocked how much they’d be willing to read. A thirty page sales letter? Impossible you say. Not so.

Imagine you were getting divorced and you didn’t want it to happen. And then, one day in the mail you get a huge direct mail piece with the headline “Exactly What You Need to Say to Stop Your Painful Divorce – Even If It Feels Hopeless.” You’d very likely sit down and read that. If a friend gave to you, even more likely.

When relevance has been established people pay attention. Until it’s been established, they ignore you. It’s rarely a matter of too much information or too many words. It’s almost always an issue of too little relevance.

REASON #2 – IS IT A FIT?

If you are speaking to someone and they are not dealing with the problem you solve – that’s it. It’s over. No need to chase them. No need to try to ask them probing questions. The entire goal of our marketing should be about helping them to sort out if we’re a fit for them or not.

There are so many elements of whether things are a fit or not – but the fastest, clearest and most important one is this: ‘can you help me with a problem I’m experiencing?’. If the problem we solve is fuzzy, so will their minds be when trying to figure out if it’s a fit. Always remember this: the confused mind says ‘no’.

REASON #3 – TRUST

If you can articulate their lived experience and problems even better than they can they will experience a profound amount of trust with you.

They feel profoundly safe with you because they know that you understand them. Don’t underestimate the power of this. In their mind, the logic goes like this: ‘if they understand my problems so well, they most understand how to design a solution well too.’

People don’t get on your boat because they love it. They get on your boat to get off Island A.

Until they perceives some relevance in what you do to their life – nothing happens. And why should it?

On a personal level they may love you dearly, they might give you polite interest at that cocktail party, but on a business level they could care less about your problems, travails and how hard it is for you. They want to know, ‘What can you do for me? Can you get me relief from this pain?’

No, they’re coming to you to get something. Your business is just a tool. Your boat is just a boat to them. An ends to a means. It might sound harsh but I think you’ll find it’s true.

The point is that it isn’t about you and your boat.

 

Three levels of progress in this area. You know you’re making progress here when:

1)    You realize that they’re on Island A and want to go to Island B. You realize that it’s not about your boat – it’s about their journey.

2)    You realize that many people are in learned helplessness about their problems. They think the pain is unavoidable – they’ve tried so. many. different. times. They don’t believe those deeper needs will ever be fulfilled. They fear that the problem is permanent. They’ve learned that they can never get off Island A.

3)    You can articulate their problems better than they can. You can articulate the needs and inklings that they barely even knew they had themselves – you can put words to those vague discomforts, niggling doubts and unclear concerns.

This is a huge sign of progress.

Rich Scheffrenn says in his Maven Matrix report: “Come up with at least three ways to articulate these problems better than your prospects have.  (It’s not as hard as it might sound…nobody sits around trying to come up with better ways to describe a problem, so thinking time will give you a huge advantage here.)” This means that you don’t only understand Island A, you know how they feel about being Island A.

Your goal is to be able to speak to your ideal clients about their problem, about their daily experience, in such a way that they say, “Wow! That’s me! That’s it. She gets it! She understands what I’m dealing with. I’ve never felt that understood.”

Most people don’t even really know what’s wrong. They just know that something feels off.

If you can get that kind of “that’s me!” response you instantly gain massive trust. If they trust your diagnosis, they’ll trust your prescription.

Nothing builds your credibility faster than this. Nothing.

Ari Galper shares these words . . .

“The Prospect’s World — How Do We Understand It?”

QUESTION: Ari, your e-mail really resonated with me. I have my doubts about one sentence, and I’m not sure if it’s because of how it was stated. You say: “…having intimate knowledge of your prospects’ problems BEFORE you approach them.” How can you have intimate knowledge of the prospects problem before approaching them? Through lots of research? I strongly believe we can never to understand our prospect’s world because we don’t live in their world, no matter how much we try.

ARI: Understanding more about your prospects’ problems BEFORE you approach them comes from your ability to listen. And when I say listen, I mean, “Listen WITHOUT your mind thinking about how to move the conversation closer to a sale.”

Also, the term “research” is a bit too impersonal. It’s more accurate to say that you’ll have deep knowledge about your prospects’ problems when you can have open, agenda-free conversations with people who are comfortable sharing what’s happening from their perspective.

But you can’t get these insights if you’re always thinking about moving the sale forward. If a voice in your mind is always saying, “How do I move this conversation closer to a sale?,” then you’re really not “listening.” That’s why you think you can’t “live in their world.” Let go of trying to make the sale, and you’ll learn more about your prospects than you ever imagined.

 

Four qualities of a well articulated problem:

  • it’s urgent: if it’s the kind of problem they can handle whenever, they will likely put off handling it. If there’s no urgency they’ll likely regard what you do with fascination and respect, but they won’t buy. If it’s a mild, dull ache . . . well some people can live with those forever. It’s the old story of the city slicker who gets lost in the country and he walks to a farm house. While he’s getting directions from the farmer sitting on his porch, the dog next to the farmer on the porch floor is whining something awful. When he asks what’s wrong with the dog, the farmer tells him, ‘Oh him. He’s sittin’ on a nail.’ But, the city slicker persists, ‘why doesn’t he move then?’ The farmer looks down on the dog, ‘well, it doesn’t hurt that much . . .’
  • it’s particular: yes, ‘stress’ is a symptom. True. But the stress of a housewife and the stress of a CEO are different. The stress of living your life hiding the fact that you’re gay is different than the stress of trying to scrape enough money to pay your bills. The question of niche becomes tremendously important here. Nothing helps us qualify and refine the nature of the symptoms faster than knowing exactly who we’re talking about.
  • it’s sensory: the most effective of these appeal to your five senses. You can easily describe them. You can imagine them clearly. You can visualize them.  Taken together, the symptoms paint a picture of someone’s life. They tell a story. Your ideal client should read the list you come up with and say, “that’s me!”
  • it has feelings: ideally you not only put in the specific symptoms but also how people feel about those symptoms.

 

Seven ways to identify and clarify the symptoms you help your clients with

  • look to your own wounds: in so many cases, we end up being able to best serve people who are just like us. We can help people who are going through what we went through. Our deepest wounds are often our truest niche.
  • interviews and conversations: sit down with people in your niche and ask them what it’s like to be them. Listen carefully. Take notes. You likely can’t do this enough.
  • listen for their metaphors: when they describe what they live with what images do they use? what is it like for them? what does it seem like to be on Island A? Is it like a prison? Do they feel like they’re at the ‘end of their rope’ or ‘up against a wall’ or more like they’re drowning? Sometimes, this kind of evocative imagery can be used very powerfully in our marketing.
  • look for industry frustrations: where are they currently frustrated or aggravated with your industry? Knowing this can give you some keen insights into how to design your boat and frame it best.
  • get interviewed: have a friend interview you and record what you say. The catch: you must answer the question as if you were your own ideal client. So you will answer all questions with “I” not “they”. Pretend you’re the kind of client you want – step into their shoes. Have them ask you this question again and again, “Under what circumstances do you start to think about buying __________________?”
  • research online: find out where your niche hangs out online. Are there certain forums, blogs, facebook pages etc. Go and research. Read their comments. Participate. Ask questions.

  • consider which of the four tracks it’s a part of: most of the problems people face in their life will fit into one of the following four ‘tracks’. Which one is primary for you (remember: their symptoms, not your diagnosis).
  1. health: physical health, more energy, being more strong, more flexible, better digestion, better sleep etc.
  2. money: this could mean more cash, better money management, ways to save money etc. Can you help them make it or save it? Can you improve their career prospects?
  3. peace of mind: a deeper sense of spirituality and meaning etc. Can you help people feel more relaxed, safe and comfortable in their own skin and at home in the world? Can you help them partake in more meaningful work in their life?
  4. relationships: dating, marriage, better sex etc.

 

Thoughts on how to use these symptoms in your marketing:

  • with great respect and sensitivity: these things are often incredibly painful for people. We don’t want to speak tritely of people’s pain. If they are feeling shame – that is incredibly crippling. It’s very sensitive ground. Tread carefully. You need to acknowledge how hard it is for them.
  • share your own story: sometimes we don’t have to say the infomercially words like, ‘do you suffer from bad breath?’. Sometimes we can just share our story and they can find themselves in it. And sometimes that’s more powerful.
  • tell the client’s story: another option is that you can articulate the story of your typical client. You can do a little one or a big one
  • be curious about the problems you already solve (that you might not even know you’re solving):  Thomas Leonard was one of the founders of the Life Coaching movement. But before he did this, he was a financial advisor. One day he asked a couple who he’d worked with for years, “Why do you work with me? I mean, beyond the technical side.” The husband said, “Thomas, how could we give you up? You’re our marriage counselor!” Thomas was confused and asked them to explain. The wife spoke up and said, “Thomas, you need to understand, before we came to you our marriage was on the rocks. And it was mostly due to fights about money. But then when we saw you, you had this incredibly gentle way of working things out with us. We left that first meeting feeling so at peace. Now we have a rule in our marriage. We don’t talk about money unless Thomas is there. You’ve saved our marriage.”

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Want Help? If you’d like some more direct guidance and hand holding on figuring out your niche then go and check out my Niching for Hippies coaching program http://marketingforhippies.com/niching-for-hippies/